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    Vote : sand king, dark seer.
    Sand king ngasap lv 4, ato stun+skill 3 itu ga ada obat.
    Dark seer, vacum + ion sheel y udah tinggalin ngopi.

    Bagaimana?? Ada yang lain??


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    woi techis masa gak ikutan sih,..hero andalan gw tuh,...solo bwh aj orang pada takut,..:3 gg lah techis solo,..lv 6 fast,.musuh uda klimpungan beli sentry dan sejenisnya,..
    siapa yg brani deketin techis?? rame2??klo yg pke pinter bawa tele di bokong 5 orang juga ga mati
    mati klo di silence cc.. justru lbih enak solo bwah dari pda mid.. ud jalannya lelet.. attacknya kecil , kemungkinan kalah last hit gede.klo di nuke ( SF , tinker, zeus ) mencret2
    "klo ampir mati gampang , tinggal bunuh diri ajaaa".
    iye bnr bunuh diri , balik2 uda kalah level ama lwan midnya.
    lagian better dia kmn2 , nanam bom dari pda nongkrong di solo

    SK di taroin sentry jg uda ga bsa ilang2 lagi.. dia melee , hpnya kecil , ga keras , lvl awal stunnya pendek. skill player SK ini harus 2 x lipetnya dari misal tinker yg jadi lwan di solo mid baru menang. klo sama , boro2 . beda ama brood , dia itu ilang tp masi bsa gerak , n pny kemampuan lane control yg bgs baik dari cicil gigitnya atau spiderlingnya.

    "tp kan skill 3nya sakit kk" emg sakit klo kena, klo kgk ? lwannya range otomatis agak jauh dari creep , jadi klo pecah pun lom tntu kena.

    + taroin sentry


    Dark seer ? nope, lebih efektif pny tmn dari pda sndirian .solo lawan hero apa dlu ini ? barusan kmren liat tinker vs dark seer , ds maen shell , vaccum bla3. kasi ke creep tp , lvl 6 uda mati 3 x ama tinker. kurang lebih sama kyk si SK sukses rate kecil , seandainya bsa sukses , apa ga lebih bgs GB in tmn ?

    hero2 di atas itu ada yg memang dilahirkan solo , ada yg bsa kanan kiri .. yg dilahirkan solo itu misalnya doom.. drpd bareng tmn mnding sndirian , ga pny slow, ga pny stun.. kerjaannya makanin creep , bkin tmn jadi ga dpt. atau magnus, di taro samping mao bwat apa ?

    pda nyebut 3 hero ini , knp ya ? ktmu lwan mid nya hero apa sih ?
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    lah solo mid to ternyata,perasaan judulnya solo well and why..klo techis mnuurut saya termasuk hero solo global,.klo kill kan sekarang dpt exp,.jadi ya mending lo banyakin ranjau lo aj,.napain ngeline,,..:3 techis uda serem klo uda lv 7 gan nah skill yg bahaya itu justru skill ranjau itu,.lv 4 itu 600 damage,.klo lv 7 biasanya hp rata dibawah 1500 an kan,..pasang aj 4 bijix600 damage 2400 di beberapa tempat,.uda bikin susah itu,..namanya aj hero anti roaming,..

    hm,...disilent?? yg saya bahas bukan skill bunuh diri gan,justru yg imba itu skill ranjau sama statisnya..emang statis trap sama ranjau kudu mencet tombol ya baru aktif,..?? wkwkw,.. klo disilent ya lari aj ke statis trap,..toh 2 skill techis gak butuh aktifasi,..
    sapa bilang gw mo ambil bunuh diri,ambil 1 aj buat keadaan mendesak..rugi exp ma waktu,..mending beli portal pasang statis 1-2 biji ja cukup klo lv 4=6 detik paling lama di dota lho,..masi kurang imba apa coba skillnya?? buat slametin diri,.maen tower ja cukup klo gw,..techis ranjau sakit 5 kali push tower lo ranjauin kelar tu satu tower,..

    klo bahas skill hero gini gan,.klo ente bisa bilang di silent berarti skillnya berbahaya donk,..klo emang gak berbahaya skillnya napain di silent,..??
    klo mau bahas lawannya techis silencer ya jelas techis kalah,.emang disini bahas musuhnya techis,..kan bahas skillnya kk,.. klo bahas by one nya techis keknya gak cocok deh,..:P

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    bukan , maksudnya yg bsa solo mid..

    ada musuh techies ? rajin2 beli sentry gan, cmn 200 perak jgn pelit2, 1 wave creep jg uda dpt 200.

    ntar jg stress sndiri techiesnya. taro sentry di spot2 biasa tanam bom ,
    kan lo suka maen techies , uda apal donk dmn dia biasa taro ??
    kebanyakan disini pda kerepotan ngelawan techies doank mslhnya cmn 1, PELIT. ga ad mslh laen

    klo mau bahas lawannya techis silencer ya jelas techis kalah,
    di dota yg bsa skill silence emg silencer doank ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindRepel View Post
    mati klo di silence cc.. justru lbih enak solo bwah dari pda mid.. ud jalannya lelet.. attacknya kecil , kemungkinan kalah last hit gede.klo di nuke ( SF , tinker, zeus ) mencret2
    "klo ampir mati gampang , tinggal bunuh diri ajaaa".
    iye bnr bunuh diri , balik2 uda kalah level ama lwan midnya.
    lagian better dia kmn2 , nanam bom dari pda nongkrong di solo

    SK di taroin sentry jg uda ga bsa ilang2 lagi.. dia melee , hpnya kecil , ga keras , lvl awal stunnya pendek. skill player SK ini harus 2 x lipetnya dari misal tinker yg jadi lwan di solo mid baru menang. klo sama , boro2 . beda ama brood , dia itu ilang tp masi bsa gerak , n pny kemampuan lane control yg bgs baik dari cicil gigitnya atau spiderlingnya.

    "tp kan skill 3nya sakit kk" emg sakit klo kena, klo kgk ? lwannya range otomatis agak jauh dari creep , jadi klo pecah pun lom tntu kena.

    + taroin sentry


    Dark seer ? nope, lebih efektif pny tmn dari pda sndirian .solo lawan hero apa dlu ini ? barusan kmren liat tinker vs dark seer , ds maen shell , vaccum bla3. kasi ke creep tp , lvl 6 uda mati 3 x ama tinker. kurang lebih sama kyk si SK sukses rate kecil , seandainya bsa sukses , apa ga lebih bgs GB in tmn ?

    hero2 di atas itu ada yg memang dilahirkan solo , ada yg bsa kanan kiri .. yg dilahirkan solo itu misalnya doom.. drpd bareng tmn mnding sndirian , ga pny slow, ga pny stun.. kerjaannya makanin creep , bkin tmn jadi ga dpt. atau magnus, di taro samping mao bwat apa ?

    pda nyebut 3 hero ini , knp ya ? ktmu lwan mid nya hero apa sih ?

    semua hero itu pasti ada timbal baliknya brooooo.. baik di sentinel, pasti ada penangkalnya di scourge, begitu juga sebaliknya..
    Jadi yang dibahas ini yang paling enak creeping ato yang paling mendominasi di line solo??
    kalau buat creeping sih Sand King, Dark Seer, ma Nvm ga ada obatnya, tapi itu mungkin ga mendominasi..
    kalau solo bisa mendominasi tapi agak susah creeping boleh juga pudge, mirana, dan tauren warchief..

    sama aja, misal pakai brood, kasih aja pit lord.. "kan ada anak2 nya brood buat nyicil2.." malah bunuh diri itu namanya, kasih aja skill 3 pit lord..

    seperti kata pepatah : "Nobodies perfect" ..

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    klo ngepub itu biasa org picknya asal2an apalagi ga book , ga liat2 dlu sapa lawannya , jadi mortred solo wannabe bsa sukses krn kebetulan lwan solo midnya jg model wannabe gtu jg.

    Jadi yang dibahas ini yang paling enak creeping ato yang paling mendominasi di line solo??
    bukan 2 2 nya , ada ga gw nulis kata "paling"

    mslh dominasi atau tidak itu kembali lagi ke 3 faktor ini
    1. Hero yg dpke dan lawannya
    2. Skill pribadi player tersebut.
    3. tmn2 timnya sndiri.
    tp ada bbrp hero yg better solo ada yg lebih baik jgn. jadi dibahas itu murni tntang hero , bukan skill playernya.
    kyk yg uda gw bilang , vigoss mao pake apa aja di solo ttp aja lawannya di buli.

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    sekali lagi.. Masing2 hero ada penangkalnya..
    mau pakai hero apapun (yang skill nya sakit bgt apapun), ada penangkalnya..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindRepel View Post
    bukan , maksudnya yg bsa solo mid..

    ada musuh techies ? rajin2 beli sentry gan, cmn 200 perak jgn pelit2, 1 wave creep jg uda dpt 200.

    ntar jg stress sndiri techiesnya. taro sentry di spot2 biasa tanam bom ,
    kan lo suka maen techies , uda apal donk dmn dia biasa taro ??
    kebanyakan disini pda kerepotan ngelawan techies doank mslhnya cmn 1, PELIT. ga ad mslh laen



    di dota yg bsa skill silence emg silencer doank ?
    emang lo pda biasa tro bom dmne??
    nah lo tau kan beli sentry murah 200 itu klo ad yg mau suport beli,..

    inget gan sentry hanyalah item yg digunakan untuk melihat yg invisible bukan berarti melihat area map di tempat tersebut,..anda masih btuh observer buat melihat di sela2 pohon ada bom atau tidak,..biasane ane pasang disitu gan ditanjakan atau sela2 phon emang biasanya pada pasang dimana??
    sentry tidak bisa melihat bom yg ada di tanjakan atau sela2 pohon tanpa bantuan observer,..jadi klo ditotal 200x2 anda butuh 400 buat menjinakan techis,..yang salah satunya cuman ad stock 2x2 saja,..alias observer cuman bisa 4 buah kan,untuk beberapa menit delay..
    klo mines dipasang di sela2 pohon atau tanjakan,.orang bawa gem juga ga bakal kliatan apalagi klo malem,..

    dan emang bner gan silent bukan cuman silencer,..
    sesuatu yg memalukan klo pick hero silencer cuman buat nangkal techis,..itu menandakan kalau techis skillnya diperhitungkan,..

    stun 6 detik itu imba lo,.apalagi bisa dibuat stun brantai,.stun berantai terjadi klo ada statis trap lain di area statis trap yg meledak,..pasang aja berurutan tapi pasangnya dalam jangkauan statis yg di jadikan ledakan,.
    dan dalam 6 detik techis yg bawa degger bisa masuk pasang 1 statis lg,.klo sukses timing tepat total stun 12 detik,.woaaa imba kek gitu tapi sering dilupakan skillnya,..

    ow ya klo techis gak bisa cuman gara2 disilent mati,.trus apa bedanya dengan tiny,nvm.?? tiny ma nvm juga disilent mati tuh,..apa lagi klo ketemu silencer,..??kok dimasukin daftar solo well..techis juga bisa lah,.creping skill ad,..defend ada,.klo di silent juga sama kan tiny juga mati,..

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    Skywrath mage ok juga kayanya
    skill cicilnya (lupa namanya) cd cpt manacost dkit damagenya sakit bgt+ad silen,amplify,slow,ama klo dh dpt ulti bisa bunuh hampir semua hero + semua skillnya cast rangenya jauh"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muse69 View Post
    Skywrath mage ok juga kayanya
    skill cicilnya (lupa namanya) cd cpt manacost dkit damagenya sakit bgt+ad silen,amplify,slow,ama klo dh dpt ulti bisa bunuh hampir semua hero + semua skillnya cast rangenya jauh"

    mao tau counternya si skywrath ? nerubian assassin. klo ktmu anub mending tuker lane.tiap ada yg pake mage gw pick anub.. autowin klo solo2an , mao yg pake dewa nusa jg ga ngaruh
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindRepel View Post
    mao tau counternya si skywrath ? nerubian assassin. klo ktmu anub mending tuker lane.tiap ada yg pake mage gw pick anub.. autowin klo solo2an , mao yg pake dewa nusa jg ga ngaruh
    namanya aj uda ngeri gitu,...assassin..
    sedot mana nya yg bikin keki buat hero int,.
    sekalian mumpung bahas skill hero itu skill nya yg baru evek apa om??

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    sand king kok ga masuk ya, padahal skill asep nya kan damage nya gede buat creping, ga hanya asep skill 3 nya juga GG buat creping, ditambah ada empale yang bisa multi fungsi buat nyerang atau pun kabur ke spot2 yang tidak mungkin di kejar hero lawan,,

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    menurut gw nih gan
    hero paling kuat buat solo :
    str : kunkka
    agi : SF
    int : SS

    kemungkinan besar untuk menang.. setelah sekian lama bermain

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    yang dragon knight tu tinggal pake soul ring sama skill 1 solo mid di jamin cpet kaya nya + lawan klepek" sama skill 1 nya...
    untuk pertahanan ambil skill 3 tambah armor

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    walaupun gw setuju untuk kebanyakan yg ditulis disini

    tapi coba tolong ditulis line mana yg dimaksud

    solo mid kah?
    atau offlane solo?

    banyak hero diatas yg lebih cocok ditulis solo offlane, karena lebih bagus hero mid lain yg ambil line midnya

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    Mid Heroes, personal opinion 2016

    Best
    Alchemist: ez 8 min armlet, 13 min radiance, 30 min GG. Not even roaming support can stop him, delay a little bit still fine.
    Death Prophet: ez spirit siphon ez crypt swarm gg
    Invoker: ez midas 6-8 min, ez forged spirit farm lv8 = 2 spirits
    Storm Spirit: ez bloodstone farm
    Tinker: ez 8-10 min, travel -> aether lens

    Good
    Lina: ez phase eul = own, snowballing into BKB/Agh build
    Mirana: ez 13 min aghanim, go Ethereal Blade build
    Timbersaw (aka Goblin Shredder): ez bloodstone
    Zeus: ez early discord + aether lens

    Okay, I guess
    Magnus: can offlane, leave mid to someone else
    Dragon Knight: blink rush good, but you can pick other good mid instead of him
    Templar Assassin: physical mid laner not good anymore
    Naga Siren: alchemist alternative, 4v5 team, very bad against drow line-up
    Ember Spirit: very bad against drow line-up, better safe lane
    Shadow Fiend: not so good today, aghanim rush bad
    Phantom Assassin: blight stone -> diffusal build -> painful dagger
    Juggernaut: healing ward build, go yasha shadow blade rush, good enough
    Meepo: very situational pick, but very good
    Viper: very strong in lane, but no teamfight presence, just like Bane
    Venomancer: gimmicky, but very strong mid in good lineup
    Puck: can offlane, weak against Pipe lineup, also people buy Infused Raindrops
    Windranger (aka Alleria, Windrunner): people prefer magical mid heroes nowadays
    Queen of Pain: good, but lacks of disables (Puck is better than her in most cases)
    Leshrac: Gimmicky
    Batrider: Can offlane, also very situational pick
    Outworld Devourer (aka Harbinger, Obisidian Destroyer): Better take safe lane vs pesky offlaner (like Timber/Faceless)
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    i choose my fav hero

    Stone Giant.
    kekuatan stone giant adalah di high base damagenya , sehingga memudahkannya melakukan last hit dan jg

    doble combo nuke yang sungguh sakit terutama di early mid game.pada level 4 atau 5 bila musuh terkena dengan telak , bukan tidak mungkin full hp pun akan mati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cegeb View Post
    Mid Heroes, personal opinion 2016

    Best
    Alchemist: ez 8 min armlet, 13 min radiance, 30 min GG. Not even roaming support can stop him, delay a little bit still fine.
    Death Prophet: ez spirit siphon ez crypt swarm gg
    Invoker: ez midas 6-8 min, ez forged spirit farm lv8 = 2 spirits
    Storm Spirit: ez bloodstone farm
    Tinker: ez 8-10 min, travel -> aether lens

    Good
    Lina: ez phase eul = own, snowballing into BKB/Agh build
    Mirana: ez 13 min aghanim, go Ethereal Blade build
    Timbersaw (aka Goblin Shredder): ez bloodstone
    Zeus: ez early discord + aether lens

    Okay, I guess
    Magnus: can offlane, leave mid to someone else
    Dragon Knight: blink rush good, but you can pick other good mid instead of him
    Templar Assassin: physical mid laner not good anymore
    Naga Siren: alchemist alternative, 4v5 team, very bad against drow line-up
    Ember Spirit: very bad against drow line-up, better safe lane
    Shadow Fiend: not so good today, aghanim rush bad
    Phantom Assassin: blight stone -> diffusal build -> painful dagger
    Juggernaut: healing ward build, go yasha shadow blade rush, good enough
    Meepo: very situational pick, but very good
    Viper: very strong in lane, but no teamfight presence, just like Bane
    Venomancer: gimmicky, but very strong mid in good lineup
    Puck: can offlane, weak against Pipe lineup, also people buy Infused Raindrops
    Windranger (aka Alleria, Windrunner): people prefer magical mid heroes nowadays
    Queen of Pain: good, but lacks of disables (Puck is better than her in most cases)
    Leshrac: Gimmicky
    Batrider: Can offlane, also very situational pick
    Outworld Devourer (aka Harbinger, Obisidian Destroyer): Better take safe lane vs pesky offlaner (like Timber/Faceless)
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